VF48Hours 2020 Forum

LindenFilm
From: Auckland
Since: Feb 2014
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48 Hours to Shoot, Edit, ...Flow

2014, my first year in New Zealand, hopefully first year in the V48 project.

As a newbie and for other noobs starting out, I thought it would be interesting to hear from veterans, which tried and tested workflows people use.

What did you learn from previous years that you would change?

How does the 48 hour workflow differ from a normal Short?

What compromises did you make?

Did you create optimised or proxy media to work with? Did you stay in your main editing program to colour correct?

Would love to hear what you think, thanks!

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treefrog
From: Dunedin, Otago
Since: Apr 2011
Posts: 1115

in reply to LindenFilm:

I like to send people out with phones and streetview, and then comp a list together, maybe make a few notes, keeping in mind vehicle & pedestrian access, is there any power, toilets, greenroom and travel-time to and from your HQ.

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sideshowstu
From: Queenstown
Since: Apr 2011
Posts: 119

An idea for post: Do your end credits nice and early in the piece to avoid errors.

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LindenFilm
From: Auckland
Since: Feb 2014
Posts: 22

in reply to Jason Howarth:

Read 'How Not to Make a Short Film' not so long ago, written by Sundance programmer Roberta Munroe. She places the same emphasis you have on food and well being of the crew. The last thing you want is an unhappy crew walking out on you at the eleventh hour!! I know exactly what you mean about taking a break, I often find when grading for a long time that I like my finished grade, then I come back an hour later and hate it! So breaks are pretty important.

An idea for post: Do your end credits nice and early in the piece to avoid errors.

This is a good point, you can get this locked down way in advance before the shoot weekend. Preparing this could save vital time that may otherwise have been wasted.

Connor
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LindenFilm
From: Auckland
Since: Feb 2014
Posts: 22

in reply to treefrog:

Is this prior to shoot weekend then?

Connor
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treefrog
From: Dunedin, Otago
Since: Apr 2011
Posts: 1115

in reply to sideshowstu:

Word. Many word.
Long string of word.

A Rule of Broken Thumb that I've employed for some time, Titles less than 10 seconds, Credit less than 30, (unless you're a Harry freakn Potter film of course)

Title and Credit (in 99% of cases) are not telling story. Get em out of the way.

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treefrog
From: Dunedin, Otago
Since: Apr 2011
Posts: 1115

in reply to LindenFilm:

Absolutely.

Give the task to all your crew members, soon you'll have a huge list of potentially awesome, super secret locations.

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themorgan
From: Auckland
Since: Apr 2011
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in reply to DylanReeve:

We've usually done best when we've picked a versatile location for the bulk of our show.

I have an ongoing problem with using too many locations. It wastes so much time, and has had such limited value for my shorts that I don't know why I keep doing it, or how I've gotten away with it to the extent I have.

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dramamike
From: Wellington
Since: Apr 2011
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in reply to themorgan:

The locations must be VERY close together.
Anything beyond a 10 minute drive is too far.
I've done a few at single locations and its been so much less stress.

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Craig
Since: May 2011
Posts: 79

+1 to the location comments.
Depending on how you look at it it's possibly part of the fun and challenge to include a few different locations.

BUT if you spend much of your weekend packing gear, driving, or worse, sitting in traffic or looking for parking then that's serious time down the drain. Locations close together and away from the CBD unless you have a very well understood parking situation.

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DylanReeve
From: Auckland
Since: Apr 2011
Posts: 544

in reply to themorgan:

I have an ongoing problem with using too many locations. It wastes so much time, and has had such limited value for my shorts that I don't know why I keep doing it, or how I've gotten away with it to the extent I have.

Amazingly, one of my favourite films of ours, Sceptre of MacGuffin, included quite a few locations. More than I'd try to include now ideally.

On the other hand, last year's entry is almost all in one location and I think feels a little bland because of it.

Maybe diverse locations are a good thing - just shoot quickly :)

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NITRO
From: Wellington
Since: Mar 2011
Posts: 383

in reply to Domino:

If you can manage it, I recommend getting a copy of Red Giant Bulletproof.

It's an awesome tool you can use to conform and do a basic grade on all of your footage outside of your main edit tool - including adding meta data like shot/slate info.

You'll read in a lot of places that it can't ingest from many cameras yet - thats ok. You can still ingest using something else a load the footage in to BulletProof

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