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Mista Teas
From: Christchurch
Since: Apr 2011
Posts: 529

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2019 Thoughts

Deathly quiet around here post-comp. So, let's have your thoughts on the 2019 weekend? Elements, genre, ULTRA, weather, timing. launch & hand-in! Anything.

I loved how the elements were left pretty open again which I believe allows for better integration than the line/prop/character did in the past. For ULTRA the fourth-wall breaking will be pretty obvious but that's a different story.

I really appreciated the set-up at the CHCH hand-in. Clear and obvious aisle to the hand-in desk and it was a super nice feeling having AJ on the mic announcing our team when we arrived. There was a great feeling in the room and generous applause for all teams.

Lots of new teams it seemed in CHCH this year and it also seemed like more teams didn't make the deadline than in the past. Maybe I just spoke to those that didn't!

Anyway...yours, thanks.

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Andrew Todd
From: Christchurch
Since: Apr 2011
Posts: 673

Okay, more detailed feedback:

ELEMENTS: there has to be something in there that inspires story, as opposed to just "items/events that need to be included." This was the first year that I constantly lost track of what the elements were, because they were so forgettable. We ended up barely using them apart from split-screen, and just made the film we wanted to make, which brings me to...

ULTRA: Completely unnecessary adding the 4th wall break to the split screen, which would so obviously have been fine on its own that I'm just baffled as to how it got through. Also interesting in that "a split screen shot" feels like it would've been a technical element in the days of old. Would, again, prefer something that inspired story, as opposed to a technical hurdle - we didn't have any technical issues, but we were absolutely stumped coming up with something that used the Ultra elements and the regular elements at the core of the story. (In the end, again, we just made what we wanted to.)

GENRES: Amazing pack of genres, even if we didn't get one of the fun new ones. Aside from the weird double-up of Sci-Fi and Time Travel, one of the best collections of genres I've seen.

TIMING: not a problem for us as we were shooting at the height of summer and only had two people to wrangle.

WEATHER: we had thunderstorms but we mostly shot indoors anyway.

LAUNCH & HAND-IN: We were asleep for launch, as it was 2am for us, and handed in electronically, which went without a hitch.

OVERALL: Happy with what we made, but boy it was a mission getting there.

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2019 - "Розкол (Schism)" - Science Fiction (National finalist, Chch 3rd place + Best Cinematography)
2018 - "Утка (Utka)" - Wish (National finalist, Chch winner + Best Script + Best Animation, official selection Kiev International Short Film Festival)
2011-2017 - Christchurch 48HOURS City Manager
2010 - "I Am Single" - Rom-Com (Chch finalist + Best Art Direction)
2009 - "New Fish" - Musical (National runner-up + Best Score, Chch winner)
2008 - "Übermensch" - Horror (Chch finalist)
2007 - "Pain Killer: The Sick Sense" - Superhero (Chch finalist)
ALSO - "As Of Yet Unfinished" (2012, unofficial); "The Contender" (2010, finals intro)
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TheNimbleMarmoset
From: Christchurch
Since: May 2012
Posts: 198

in reply to Andrew Todd:

ELEMENTS: there has to be something in there that inspires story, as opposed to just "items/events that need to be included." This was the first year that I constantly lost track of what the elements were, because they were so forgettable.

Yeah, I think that what nominal category the elements are (Sound, Physical, Technical, Action) is less important than what they offer to the film. If we stick with four elements, they I'd say make two of them somewhat technical hoops to have to jump through, and make the other two the kinds of things that might inspire story. And to be clear, I get that any element, a puddle or wind or whatever, can of course be used as a story motivator if you're clever enough. But looking at the four from this year, only one (the double-take) directly and necessarily relates to a character moment (and even then, it doesn't do much to inform character).

What I would like to see is something that is situationally specific enough to inspire story, but vague enough to be used and interpreted in a variety of ways. Something like "a misunderstanding", "a lie" or "an overreaction".

SOUTH JERSEY GHOST RESEARCH
2019 - "Catman and Robyn" (The Secret Identity Movie)
2018 - "Cushy: A Pull Story" (The Film That Spans More Than Ten Years)

TBALC
2017 - "Down 2 The Wire". . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2016 - "Down To The Wire" (Bechdel)
2016 - "Windows" (Mystery). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2011 - "Band Of Bullies" (Quest)
2015 - "The Silent Man" (Mystery). . . . . . . . . . . . . . .2010 - "I Am Single" (Rom Com)
2014 - "The Ex" (Rom Com). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2009 - "New Fish" (Musical)
2013 - "Quarrelsome Heat" (Action/Adventure). . . 2008 - "Übermensch" (Horror)
2012 - "Nicky + Eve 19/5" (One Shot) . . . . . . . . . . .2007 - "Pain-Killer: The Sick Sense" (Superhero)

EVIL GENIUS LABS
2005 - "Bruised Gold" (Documentary)
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Newsboy
From: Wellington
Since: May 2011
Posts: 66

It wouldn't be the 48 Hour weekend without a few ups and downs.
For the second time I received the Musical/Dance genre, and for the second time I thought of ways to quietly exit the competition, before doubling down on an idea my wife said not to do :p

Thankfully, the team loved the idea, got completely bought into it, and for the first time started planning out a one-shot movie. Really stoked with how well it all turned out, and can't wait to see what people think.

Loved the elements this year, as I usually feel having a line of dialogue ends up feeling a little too forced or, if you watch a few of the year's movies, a tad repetitive and distracting. Wind, laughter, overhead shot, double-take, are all perfectly subtle enough to be used without distraction. Love it.

2007: Solitaire
2008: F*Dance (National winner)
2009: Mime and Punishment
2010: Art
2011: Nubbin' But Trouble
2012: FETUS 5000
2013: Fist Cop
2014: Man Day
2015: Beyond the Fridge
2016: DICKS
2017: Cameo'd in 11 films.
2019: The Big Number.

Most films linked above are the tidied up Director's cuts. Not indicative of what was handed in
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Joel_Tempero
From: Christchurch
Since: May 2018
Posts: 15

rip focus had a great weekend.

We were initially taken back by our genre - stumped on how we had somehow missed a bunch of bizarre ones and ended up with a genre which was basically the same as what we got 2 years ago. That being said, the fact that we had done a time travel movie 2 years ago gave us the motive to get creative with 'How can we make a film with the same genre, but completely different tone' and we ended up with an idea that was making us all laugh a lot, so we went for it.

The elements ended up coming to our script pretty naturally, we never felt like we were cramming them into the story. It concerned me a little at first - feeling that maybe we weren't using them 'creatively' enough because of how easily they fitted in, but that concern disappeared pretty quick, I think the elements can be both used well while not standing out, making it less of a "48hours" film and more of just a regular short film/sketch.

We don't qualify for Ultra until next year, but during the announcements at the bar in ChCh I think I found myself less motivated to do it next year after seeing what those teams were going to have to endure - but my mind could change on that, I have a year to think it over now I suppose.

Overall a decent challenge for our team this year and I was very happy with their efforts.
A week before the competition I came down with a pretty nasty cough, I didn't think too much of it as it was winter and everyone seemed to be getting colds. I had some improvement on Saturday, but on Sunday it went from a bad cough to full-on chest pain - an hour after the comp ended I was in after-hours being told I had pneumonia over the weekend - yikes! I'm stoked I had such a supportive group who were able to get things done without me, it's nice to know you can go take a rest and trust that your teammates have your back.

Heats begin tonight and I'm excited to see another 9 rounds of ChCh talent. Bring it on!

rip focus - Team Leader
2019 - "a nipple in time" (Time-Travel)
2018 - "A Slice of You" (Anti-Rom Com)
2017 - "A Ripple in Time" (Sci-Fi)

Bus Stop Studios (School Team) - Team Leader
2016- "Knitting, Crochet & Embroidery" (Puppet)
2015- "Harper's Curiosity" (Mystery)
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TheNimbleMarmoset
From: Christchurch
Since: May 2012
Posts: 198

in reply to Joel_Tempero:

the fact that we had done a time travel movie 2 years ago gave us the motive to get creative with 'How can we make a film with the same genre, but completely different tone'

TBALC had something similar with Rom Com back in the day, getting it 2 or 3 times (depending on how you count it), and it's definitely a choice you make to view it positively as an extra challenge: "How do we honour the genre, but do something totally different to what we did last time?" And given that the brainstorming process usually kicks up a bunch of potential good ideas that don't get used, there's always much more fertile ground to explore in any given genre.

We don't qualify for Ultra until next year

Didn't they change the rules this year so that any team that's been a city finalist before is now eligible? Oh well, whatever the case you'll be eligible next year anyway. :)

SOUTH JERSEY GHOST RESEARCH
2019 - "Catman and Robyn" (The Secret Identity Movie)
2018 - "Cushy: A Pull Story" (The Film That Spans More Than Ten Years)

TBALC
2017 - "Down 2 The Wire". . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2016 - "Down To The Wire" (Bechdel)
2016 - "Windows" (Mystery). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2011 - "Band Of Bullies" (Quest)
2015 - "The Silent Man" (Mystery). . . . . . . . . . . . . . .2010 - "I Am Single" (Rom Com)
2014 - "The Ex" (Rom Com). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2009 - "New Fish" (Musical)
2013 - "Quarrelsome Heat" (Action/Adventure). . . 2008 - "Übermensch" (Horror)
2012 - "Nicky + Eve 19/5" (One Shot) . . . . . . . . . . .2007 - "Pain-Killer: The Sick Sense" (Superhero)

EVIL GENIUS LABS
2005 - "Bruised Gold" (Documentary)
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toowit toowoo
From: Dunedin
Since: May 2011
Posts: 103

Ultra this year I think was the first year it felt like what ultra should be: hard mode. Sequels are easier than making something from scratch, animals and children was tricky but fun, split screen is a massive challenge both technically and story wise.

For us the forth wall break felt natural, as plenty of coming of age films have narration to camera, but I do wonder if it was thrown in to give teams a push to play around with the way the frames interact in a split screen film. In the end we didn't take it in that direction, as there was just so much else to do.

We definitely felt challenged this year. Very funny when the ultra wheel landed on prequel first, I was looking forward to a chill weekend and lots of rage on the forum.

2019: Banana Split (Coming of Age) ULTRA DUO
2018: The Land Before Rhyme (Musical) ULTRA DUO
2017: Glasnost 2: Blood Moon (Supernatural) ULTRA
2016: Chasing Tail (Cat & Mouse)
2015: Glasnost (Buddy)
2014: Entropy (Time Travel)
2013: Lights. Camera. Wasteland. (Reunion)
2012: A Grave Mistake (Horror)
2011: Keeping Station (One Room (Mystery))
2010: aVatar : A sign from Guarana (V48Seconds)
2010: Alex's Puddle: The Peequel (Ghost)
2009: Alex's Puddle (Big Twist)
2008: Lucky Break (Drama)
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TheRealClose
From: Christchurch
Since: Sep 2017
Posts: 13

in reply to Joel_Tempero:

I think I found myself less motivated to do it

That’s funny. I would’ve loved to do a split screen film. Like toowit has said this year is what Ultra always should’ve been.

Didn't they change the rules this year so that any team that's been a city finalist before is now eligible?

Only national finalists, I believe.

2019 // rip focus // a nipple in time
2018 // rip focus // A Slice of You
2017 // rip focus // A Ripple In Time
2016 // Bus Stop Studios // Knitting, Crochet & Embroidery
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CraigWB
From: Auckland
Since: Apr 2011
Posts: 420

I did enjoy the split screen element as a challenge even though it caused me some problems. I think the added 4th wall thing was a needless distraction though. Felt a bit like the organizers had doubts about the split-screen element. Though I did see an ad on facebook for an LG phone or something that will shoot split screen video automatically. A wide next to a close up since all these new phones have 2 cameras anyway. Not the most original way to do a split-screen movie but the easiest way.

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The longest running non-finalist in the competition.
2019 Burgled on High : Musical ULTRA
2018 The How, The What, The Who and The Why : The Heist Movie ULTRA
2017 Operator Part II Twin Souls : Thriller/Horror One Room ULTRA
2016 The Real Time Movie : What kind of day has it been
2015 Other Dimension Movie : Rift
2014 Race Against the Clock : EIGHT POINT FIVE
2013 Musical : Wolfgang
2012 Horror : The Unrested Soul
2011 One Room (Horror) : Operator -- Audience favourite
2010 Twin Movie : Secrets in Dowsing
2009 M Night Big Twist Film : The Unfinished
2008 Drama : Breakfast at Four
2007 War : Purple Heart
Sakura Productions
2006 Musical : Sardines
2005 Mockumentary : Smuggling for Dummies DQ'ed
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Joel_Tempero
From: Christchurch
Since: May 2018
Posts: 15

Okay for real, we weren't even signed up for it and it still scared the CRAP outta me

rip focus - Team Leader
2019 - "a nipple in time" (Time-Travel)
2018 - "A Slice of You" (Anti-Rom Com)
2017 - "A Ripple in Time" (Sci-Fi)

Bus Stop Studios (School Team) - Team Leader
2016- "Knitting, Crochet & Embroidery" (Puppet)
2015- "Harper's Curiosity" (Mystery)
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Joel_Tempero
From: Christchurch
Since: May 2018
Posts: 15

Okay for real for real, I can't use the forums properly to save myself

rip focus - Team Leader
2019 - "a nipple in time" (Time-Travel)
2018 - "A Slice of You" (Anti-Rom Com)
2017 - "A Ripple in Time" (Sci-Fi)

Bus Stop Studios (School Team) - Team Leader
2016- "Knitting, Crochet & Embroidery" (Puppet)
2015- "Harper's Curiosity" (Mystery)
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KyleChang
From: Christchurch
Since: Aug 2017
Posts: 1

TEAM DOLPHIN ANNOUNCEMENT
Team Dolphin had easily our most challenging year to date. ULTRA was no joke this year, that being said, last years ULTRA requirements left us with a rather odd loophole... Technically a school team is already made up of children. I'll admit, we got lucky with that one. Unfortunately, with some of our team members not being able to participate, the ULTRA challenge was too much of a challenge and we missed the hand in cut off. That's 48Hours for you though.
It's always gutting to be disqualified, our first year in the competition(2014, first year high schoolers) we got disqualified(also foreshadowing..) so it's disappointing, slightly ironic and exciting to me to announce that 2019 was Team Dolphin's last year in the competition and to go out disqualified, well it's almost poetic. It was our One Last Dance. Everybody wants a happy ending right, right? But sometimes it doesn't roll that way. Not that disqualification at any time is ever timely. That ULTRA thing had me scratching my head at the survivability of all that. But then again, that's the 48Hours gig. Part of the journey is the end. What am I tripping for? Everything is going to work out exactly the way it's supposed to. We love you 3000 48Hours.

-Team Dolphin
2019: One Last Dance(ULTRA)
2018: Versace Flows(Best School Team nom, Heat1 winners, ULTRA)
2017: OMG(Heat1 Winners)
2016: Prey for a Holiday(Heat1 winners, Best School Team nom)
2015: Half the Man I used to be(Best School Team, Heat1 winners, Best Use of Character nom)
2014: Why you shouldn't Internet date(Best Disqualified Film nom)
-Knawtra
2012: Deadbook
2009: HHH
2006: Knawtra: Eep(ChCh Runner Up, Best Use of Fog, Best Male Actor, Best Direction)
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Mista Teas
From: Christchurch
Since: Apr 2011
Posts: 529

in reply to KyleChang:

so it's disappointing, slightly ironic and exciting to me to announce that 2019 was Team Dolphin's last year in the competition and to go out disqualified, well it's almost poetic. It was our One Last Dance

Hey Team Dolphin, let me say that you've been fantastic. I remember your crazy first film back in 2014 and interviewing your team several times over the years. Your film-making has improved out-of-sight and you've given a lot of joy to the CHCH 48HOUR community. I hope in some shape or form you'll return to the comp in the future.

SCREENING NOW: End - Real Time; CHCH25s
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Everything Sticks since 2008
48Hr Films 2008-2019 48Sec Films 2008-2016

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Brendon
From: Chch
Since: May 2011
Posts: 105

I'm stoked with the reaction our film got at the screening last night.
I was just reflecting that I had a full script pretty much planned out by about 7:20pm on the Friday, but I'm glad that we kept searching around for another idea 'just in case' and came up with the one we went with.

TBALC / Team Moon
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Strange
From: Christchurch
Since: Apr 2013
Posts: 106

this isn't constructive in any way, but I don't care, watching all the heats was pretty draining. so I'm in a bit of a no fucks to give mood today.

my main takeaway thought for 2019 is that the two tickets per finalist team is FUCKING BULLSHIT.

the entry fee keeps going up, and we grumble a bit every year. but whatever. it costs what it costs to enter. but once entered. extorting $20 per person for a ticket to see the film you worked on at the finals is in very poor taste. in theory a film with a few nominations is going to mean that people nominated for those awards will have had to pay in order to be there on the off chance that they win.

2018- The Marquis de Sade The Monster Movie
2017 - Pandora's Night The Alien Film & Behind The Scenes The At Night Movie
2016 - Every Romance Trailer Ever Rom-Com
2015 - The Intervention Shock Ending
2014 - Steak and Cheese Lies Puzzle/Mystery Film
2013 - Prey: A Tale From The Future Robot/Cyborg/Android Film
2012 - True. Inspirational Film
2011 - The Kids Next Door Revenge Film
2010 - Take 4 Ghost Film
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Brendon
From: Chch
Since: May 2011
Posts: 105

in reply to Strange:

I didn't notice the two tickets thing. Damn. That is rough.

TBALC / Team Moon
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Bloydd
From: Christchurch
Since: May 2011
Posts: 142

in reply to Brendon:

Yeah, other than trying to squeeze more money out of the comp I don't really see a reason for it. I could understand if it was just in Chch with a smaller capacity but it seems to be nationwide even though most places have the same venue as the last few years. They're really trying to encourage those Solo/Duo teams!!

Richard Martin

DRAGON V MOUSE - Team Leader
2019 - That Time of the Month - Time Travel (NOT ULTRA) - CHCH finalist
2018 - Baby on Board - Fish-Out-of-Water (ULTRA) - CHCH finalist
2017 - Grisly - Horror Comedy (ULTRA) - CHCH finalist + Best use of Character (A Female)
2016 - Trap - Cat & Mouse - CHCH Finalist + Best use of Tech Element
2015 - Repent - Last Person on Earth - CHCH Finalist
2014 - Bearly: A Revenge Movie - Revenge - CHCH Finalist + Best use of Tech Element
2013 - 'Trigger' - Converging Storyline
2012 - 'Elmerdale' - Fantasy Adventure
2011 - Refuge - One Room/Horror (We don't talk about this one)
2010 - 'Everything You Need To Know About Sex (But Were Too Thick To Realise)' - Sex Education - Audience Favourite
2009 - 'Behind Closed Doors' - Real Time

Producer - The 48 Hours Podcast
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Rastinha
Since: Mar 2014
Posts: 99

Oh yeah, I just realised we usually get like 5 comps per team right? That's a bit unfun, now I have to find one friend to invite for free and make everyone else pay (not that much easier for a solo/duo team, lol)

2019: "DopeMonkey Live" - Gross-out Comedy - Pastafarian Productions (Solo/ULTRA)
2018: "Heist School Musical" - Heist Movie - Pastafarian Productions (Regional Best Door Slam)
2017: "ESP" - Alien Movie - Pastafarian Productions (Regional Finalist)
2016: "The War on Error" - Cat & Mouse - Pastafarian Productions (Regional Finalist)
2015: "Us... But Mainly You" - Black Comedy - Pastafarian Productions (Regional Finalist)
2014: "Sphere" - Horror - Pastafarian Productions (Regional Finalist)
2009-2013: MIA
2008: "I Adore" - Drama - Conspiracion de las Palomitas
2007: "The Hazel Princess" - Fairytale - Conspiracion de las Palomitas
2006: "All Ur <3 R Belong 2 Me" - Romance - Popcorn Conspiracy
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Andrew Todd
From: Christchurch
Since: Apr 2011
Posts: 673

If we make finals maybe we'll run a sweepstakes to see who gets our comps. Because we're staying a minimum of 13,000km away from the final regardless

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2019 - "Розкол (Schism)" - Science Fiction (National finalist, Chch 3rd place + Best Cinematography)
2018 - "Утка (Utka)" - Wish (National finalist, Chch winner + Best Script + Best Animation, official selection Kiev International Short Film Festival)
2011-2017 - Christchurch 48HOURS City Manager
2010 - "I Am Single" - Rom-Com (Chch finalist + Best Art Direction)
2009 - "New Fish" - Musical (National runner-up + Best Score, Chch winner)
2008 - "Übermensch" - Horror (Chch finalist)
2007 - "Pain Killer: The Sick Sense" - Superhero (Chch finalist)
ALSO - "As Of Yet Unfinished" (2012, unofficial); "The Contender" (2010, finals intro)
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R17
From: wellington
Since: May 2013
Posts: 179

Atomic Monkeys had heaps of fun. We saw our film at the heats tonight for the first time since 18:21pm on Sunday before hand in. We got some giggles from the audience so that is a win for us! It's the first time we have worked together as a husband/wife duo and we will definitely do that again.

We ended up doing live action animation (for the first time ever) and it was difficult. We thought we were being smart and getting the best of both worlds by not having to deal with actors and not having to animate backgrounds but it is surprisingly difficult to get a stick figure animation to interact with live action convincingly. It's also a lot more work as you have to animate AND film/edit... Doh!

Premier Pro crashed 4 times before 8pm on Friday night so pretty much everything was done in After Effects. I learned how to use about a squillion things that I've never used before... Motion tracking, stabilisation, chroma keying, 3D transformations etc... dynamic link was a crash-fest for some reason.

If we do the same again next year we will have to get two better devices and investigate some sort of cloud system to work on the project together rather than transferring things around with USB. I would also acquire a PC that is powerful enough to run something like Character Animator - I have a feeling that it would make life way easier than moving puppets frame by frame in After Effects... Walk cycles *shudder*.

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R17
From: wellington
Since: May 2013
Posts: 179

Whoops - posted that in the wrong place! Silly little phone screen! Anyway.. feedback...

Launch - the Wellington launch had great atmosphere but unfortunately the shape of the venue makes it very difficult to see the screen or hear the audio unless you had a choice spot.

I liked the elements this year. They were quite devious and actually took a bit of effort to include rather than being able to add them in at the end in a panic. Wind seemed like a simple thing to include but I think in reality it's tricky - especially on an unusually calm Wellington day... We couldn't even get our kite to fly!!! Same with overhead shot.

Genres - I like the mix of new genres and the classics... Rom-com and musical just aren't going to go away are they? I am super glad that I am not having to judge all the cringe comedies though!

The ultra elements seemed fun this year - interesting but do-able. It has inspired us to maybe have a go next year!

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