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clang
From: Wellington
Since: Apr 2011
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2012 compulsory elements and genres - thoughts?

Character : Nicky Brick, An Unlucky Person
The name seemed an odd choice - great for comedy (I totally took the piss with a whole family of similarly silly named characters), and Nick Brick would be a perfect name for an action hero, but somewhat annoying for serious drama. I expect there'll be quite a few Nicholas Brick and Nichola Brick characters around. No problems with her/him being unlucky - characters should always be getting into some sort of trouble.

Line of Dialogue : "I did that"
Difficult to sneak into a longer line (which I always enjoy when done well) but otherwise no problems.

Prop : A leaf
I thought about fig leaves, clover leaves, leaves of paper, then gave up and just set most of my film in a forest :) Anyone think up something more original?

Special : Some Slow-Motion
Very interesting, especially the possibility of a film done entirely in slo-mo, which I really really hope someone did. I wonder how many people tearfully discovered their feeble NLE software can't alter playback speed and so had to fake their slo-mo?

Genres
- Erotic Thriller: the big gamble, as far as unintentional comedy goes.
- One Shot: intriguing, a big challenge to write and perform to keep the action interesting, especially for teams not blessed with dollies and stabilisers etc and so forced to stick with one static shot. I'm expecting some terrible and some fabulous ones. I wonder how many teams went for a fake one shot, i.e. camera or post trickery to (hopefully) seamlessly combine multiple shots.
- Found Footage: again I'm expecting some terrible and some fabulous ones - this genre is easy to do, but hard to do well.

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sabotage
From: Auckland
Since: Apr 2012
Posts: 16

in reply to clang:

I thought the genres were really interesting and should produce some quality shorts. We got erotic thriller so we are looking to avoid unintentional laughs. I think we achieved this by having very little eroticism, but I guess we'll find out at the heats. Just a little voyeurism and the rest is mostly an action/heist/thriller.
We wrote and filmed a scene with a leaf heavily involved but ended up cutting it, it just didn't quite make sense and didn't fit the tone of the rest of the film.
So, hopefully the short jogging scene in Western Park will suffice..
Our line of dialogue: 'I did that...for you Nicky' (2 birds, one stone)

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dramamike
From: Wellington
Since: Apr 2011
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We took Nicky Brick and made her dramatic.
I had an aim of incorporating the prop as a key element of the narrative and feel that we achieved that. The leaf we used was the green spearmint lolly one.
I'd be guessing that we see a lot of 4 leaf clovers, due to the luck connection.

Our piece of luck: Choosing a street to film in, looking for the street name to direct everyone else to, looking up and seeing 'Luckie Street'. I kid you not. We filmed on Luckie Street.

I'm interested to see what the one-shot films get matched with. I think I'd have been tempted to try dance or musical and do one musical/dance number. Or maybe even horror.

Also, how many superhero vs erotic thrillers get made.

I found slow motion harder than I thought I would to incorporate, despite having action as a genre. The faster action/fight scenes just didn't flow when slowed down, it impacted the energy we were trying to build.

By the time I got to our brainstorming site our team had thought of having a character dead and naked under leaves. Needless to say our actors were relieved when we moved off that idea.

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Andrew Todd
From: Christchurch
Since: Apr 2011
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in reply to dramamike:

Also, how many superhero vs erotic thrillers get made.

Probably 70-80% superhero in Chch.

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Mista Teas
From: Christchurch
Since: Apr 2011
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We thought the genres were a superb selection. We would have loved to have done Found Footage or One-Shot. We probably still could have with our crime genre!

We thought the compulsory elements were a fairly conservative bunch which I thought wasn't really a bad thing at all - especially given the necessity to get the line, in particular, exactly right.

We ended up including four pieces of slow motion, leaves were all around, the line was used by having one character trying to force another character to say it and Nicky's "unluckiness" was covered through the general situation he was in and dialogue that referred to his "luck running out".

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Mista Teas
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in reply to Andrew Todd:

Probably 70-80% superhero in Chch.

Boo! I likes me a bit of smut...

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IctusMortem
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How many teams DID get one-shot? I can imagine the horror if a newbie team especially got handed that one.

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treefrog
From: Dunedin, Otago
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in reply to IctusMortem:

How many teams DID get one-shot

one in twelve.

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IctusMortem
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in reply to treefrog:

Yeesh. I'm glad I dodged that bullet.

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Mista Teas
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in reply to treefrog:

one in twelve.

Beautiful :)

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ligeia
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we did 4 leaf clover, should we start a tally :o)

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zer05um
From: Auckland (ex Taranaki)
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Weirdest slo-mo shot I've ever done. That's all I'll say at this point.

Nicky Brick was great from romcom, but I can see how it would be a bit tricky in other genres.

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One shot is interesting, because it's hard to think of more than a few ways to execute it. I hope to see a few interesting reinventions... Doesn't have to be real-time for example, but I suspect most will be.

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in reply to IctusMortem:

I supervised a school team in the comp for their second year. They freaked out when they got one shot. They ended up doing a one shot horror and at the end of the weekend were so glad they got one shot as they felt it forced them to be more creative and forced them into planning mode, rather than starting too quickly.

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Well I think our use of the leaf was quite 'unique'. Will hopefully get a fair share of laughs at the heats on Wednesday...

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in reply to Mista Teas:

Beautiful :)

Thank you. I do my best work while sleep deprived

Personally, I hated the line.

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stringbean
From: Wellington
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I think one-shot would actually be really cool, and think of all the time you'd save in post!

As for the elements, Nicky Brick was pretty cool, no complaints. We didn't do too name-wise with this, but had a character that couldn't catch a break so we think that tied into it.

Leaf, well this was interesting, we had trees in plenty of scenes, but that doesn't really clarify as a prop, so we ended up using leaves for a character to disguise in.

Slow-mo, I actually liked this, can go cheesy or not but I think we made it work.

I wish we had done something more creative with 'I did that' but we were tired haha and it's in there. My friend did this in England one year and their line was: "I am required to carry out this task until completion: your orders do not override anything." - so at least it wasn't that!

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I supervised a school team in the comp for their second year. They freaked out when they got one shot. They ended up doing a one shot horror and at the end of the weekend were so glad they got one shot as they felt it forced them to be more creative and forced them into planning mode, rather than starting too quickly.

I'm glad to hear it did work out well :D . It's hard to tell what will fly and what will flop, so a good judge of that is to see how the school teams do I reckon.......

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Josh Howard
From: Hamilton
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in reply to IctusMortem:

for a while they were tempted to do a one shot musical about nicky the unlucky leprechaun, as we had quite a few muse's in the group, but then thought better of it. They even had some celtic music being created in the wings during scripting.

The leaf was crushed by the stalker/killer as part of his ritual with his victims and the line was part of his monologue to the victim.

The other team I supervised got end of the world and had 3 great ideas to choose from. They were very tempted by a zombie apocalypse but decided on a different track. Nicky was unlucky as finally got a girlfriend just as the world was ending and due to the things happening to him as he tried to track her down.
Leaves more obvious then the other group as he runs through a big pile of leaves and then the line was part the collective thoughts of the people at the end of the world.

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in reply to ligeia:

We did too - with the help of sellotape - could only find three leaf ones

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I was happy with all the elements.
We weren't able to do anything exceptionally creative with any of them,
but I think we worked all of them in solidly enough.
It was a shame, too, as I was so stoked for slow-motion
and then we ended up only doing a couple scenes with it.
I've got a Casio EX-F1 that can do 300 FPS @ 512x384 resolution,
but we weren't able to write explosions or true craziness into the script.

I wanted someone to put a cookie sheet under his shirt
and then detonate a black powder charge on it
but unfortunately THAT never happened either!

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