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In todays world with the huge volume of advertizing we're hit with damn near everything is identifiable to a greater or lesser extent. Just look around your place everything from your undies to your umbrella has an identifiable logo on it or identifiable shape.

If the Clang Party (sorry clang but the shifty party could be any of the ones we have now) so the Clang Party buys a Kombi, you don't even have to say Vee Dub, you know what a Kombi is, you don' have to see the makers badge to spot one coming down the road. Is there a clause in the sale document that says no VW can be used as a transport vehicle for any political party with out prior consent?

Our world is drowning in logo's, to be honest I think this makes lego look silly, if it was my company I'd laugh it off and call it great free advertizing. Yes okay I might be pissed if was the KKK, but then I'd just put out a huge advert saying the KKK were a pack of tossers and the fact they used Shifty Blocks to make something does not mean I am on their side.

In fact I'd turn it into a positive by encouraging good folks to buy Shifty Blocks to build huge signs on their front lawns saying that the KKK are scumbags, let the money roll in. :)))))))))

Interestingly enough you never get to hear of them refunding the purchase price. :)

Let's face it CaptainHook, Disney could take the house from under you for using a name that they own.

It's an arguement that can't be won except by the lawyers pockets and I tell you what, the loosing lawyer better not be wearing identifiable Armani clobber, there's a company that wouldn't want to a seen with a loser. ))))))))

Hmmm what happened to talking animation, sorry :)

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in reply to clang:

Lego don't want their product used for political purposes - seems fair to me.

Then it should clearly state that on the box.. now that would seem fair to me..

If you purchased a Mazda, covered it in Vote for the Clang Party posters and then used it as an electioneering vehicle for zipping about the country only to get a letter from Mazda saying we don't like The Clang Party and if you don't sell it we're going to sue the hell out of you and bankrupt you for life, would that then seem fair.

Deciding what a product can and can not be used for AFTER the time of purchace is a little unreasonable. The list is bloody endless when you think about it. Perhaps Lockwood could sue you for purchasing a brand new home off them only to find out you're using it as a brothel and they really don't want to be connected in anway with prostitution.

But hey what do I know.

Anyone here thought of doing a League of Gentlemen approach

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I'm an adult male human of wealth but without any intent I am a royal sovereign of a designated carriageway for the movement vehicles.

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What sort of trailer?

A movie trailer?
A caravan?
Or something to lug the rubbish to the tip?

Stop confusing me, writing an Art House script is weird enough without you scrambling my few functioning brain cells.

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Hmmm let me see
man of means .. wealthy?
man of means.... intent?
man of means ... nasty?

It's all too confusing, what dipshit came up with the English language anyway, you don't get these problems with Latin.
Hail Caesar

PS Thank you Tarlen, it needed to go.

Rules when filming in a public or private place?

If you're in public just make sure your camera dude keeps a weather eye on any members of the public that just happen into shot, especially if it's kids. It's an easy thing to be so focused on the subject that you don't see a stray body enter even at a distance. There'd be nothing worse than to take your footage you shot on a street and start editing it only to see that there is someone standing at their gate watching you.

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in reply to DogsBreakfast:

I think we may be the only team that uses Lego, certainly regularly, and most people don't take our stuff seriously but I love doing it and it keeps things pretty simple, which suits us well.

It's a great idea using lego but others doing it can seem like a team is copying another teams style or trademark.

It would be easy for another team to find a similar icon like Ken and Barbie and make it their own. There is so many that could be used I reckon that Mr Breakfast should be allowed to hang on to it.

The comp could end up imitating telly, like one channel finding cooking shows work and now you can't move for the bloody things.

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Hot damn, so when do the cheques start rolling in? I'm looking forward to my new life as a man of means.

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Zap! Whoa, how the hell did I get here, no matter let’s roll J

I hate to say it , actually I don’t hate to say it at all, I really want to say it. See what sort of confusion arises when you get plonked into this part of the universe. Bloody Scotty, I’ll deal with him later.

It is impossible to have an idea without that idea actually being a story, even a half formed or incoherent story, an idea is an internalised story, ah but wait you can’t have an idea without a brain in which it forms so the brain is King.

Hmm but the brain is mere neurons zapping a charge in all directions so electricity is King, yay sorted. Though when you think about it it’s sort of impossible for that to occur unless you were conceived in the first place, just as I suspected sex is king.

Mind you in thinking about it a shit load of sex has had to have happened for a particular brain to arrive with the particular set of needed neurons to come up with the right mix to create anything let alone a film so as much as it pains me to say it sex is not king, evolution is.

But I guess evolution could not have taken place unless this planet had been here so Earth is king. Damn just one wee problem on the horizon with that I guess, the Earth couldn’t have been here without stars exploding and cosmic shit jumbling itself together so that must mean cosmic flotsam and jetsam is King. Yeah you’re right I can see where his is going, the flotsam and jetsam couldn’t have been there without the big bang. Hold on though, we only know about the big bang thanks to Stephen Hawking, that settles it Stephen Hawking is King, no wonder they have him on the Simpson’s so much.

Issue settled, Stephen Hawking is King, I must write to him and tell him though I suspect he already knows.

And for all you dudes wondering about the Queen, I’m reliably told by Nimlin that up K Rd on a Saturday night if you have a pocket full of change you can have any number of Queens from which to pick.

Hope that was drifty enough grog.
Retort to your hearts cotent, I no longer give a jot.

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Locking on transporter Scotty, beam me to planet bullshit thread ... zap!

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Forget the dinosaurs, I rang up the Army and they've given me a bunch of Canadian LAV's for $30 a shot . They offered a doddery old driver they've been trying to make retire as a free extra but i told them we have our own doddery old bugger who doubles as the director.

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I find it amazing to think that this is still being argued over, maybe argued is the wrong word, I have no idea but it’s becoming pretty tiresome for me at least.
This thread is supposed to be about how to give pointers to new folk on getting going and maybe some tips to those that in previous years have struggled getting a script together that works.

I’m not doubting your sincerity Gregg but may I suggest you start your own thread on such topics just as Nimlin did with the bullshit thread so as to keep the topic clean and uncluttered.

If I was new to this comp and I was reading all this I’d be frightened like hell because I probably wouldn’t understand a word of it and I’d think there’s no way I can get in with this lot because I wouldn’t have the faintest idea of what was expected of me.

Story is not king just for this comp, it’s king full stop everything else is window dressing. Arguing over the word story is pure semantics, story has not been king just for the few years this comp has been going, it’s been king for thousands of years.

All the greatest writers we talk of and I mean the greatest have all used the 3 act system of telling a story. From Tolstoy to Shakespeare that is what was used because that is the way we are wired. Yes there are others that have broken away from the system but they are rare and that has nothing to do with it being commercial or non commercial.

Story is nothing more than a communication, it’s a connection between creator and audience, if there is no communication, no dialogue no story no what ever you want to call it then it has failed and failed miserably. That applies to any form you care to mention, if you fail to connect then you have failed in your duty as the creator.

From the first lullaby we hear to the eulogy we never get to hear story is how we learn and grow as human beings. You yourself are trying to communicate to us trough your own story and stories you have read and understood in books etc, it is no different.

Now whomever it was that created and maintains this forum (bless their sweet little chuffs) made it a public forum and not one restricted to entrants only. However Gregg I do find it a bit galling when I hear you deride this comp to the extent that you do when you have never competed in it or have no intention what so ever of ever competing in it. To be honest it flummoxes me completely why you bother wasting your time, I certainly wouldn’t.

All that being said if we could keep threads that are designed to assist to the topic in question and keep the debates over the semantics to a different thread entirely. A certain few of us were rounded up on last year for highjacking threads with our nonsense. May I suggest that this sort of deviation be treated in the same way, it does nothing more than confuse and preclude the input from a fair few people wanting simple tips on making the best film they can this year.

By all means if you want to have your say Gregg then do so but I really think a thread like this should be kept as clean as possible and to the point as possible.

My god this so reminds me of back when I was just a wee wee nipper and asking my father what a 4 stroke engine was, three hours later he was banging on about the intricacies of the side draft Weber carburettor and it’s merits and shortfalls when compared to the SU carb! Bloody true story.

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I see, so that's what's afoot eh. You might want to remind noggin just what the little C inside the circle on the title page means. :) And yes change is good, shit it's what I buy my food with :)

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Right now that you've let the cat out of the bag I'm going to have to re-write the whole bloody thing again, cheers Nimlin. :)

Genres for the year?

Mike I can't remember a moment when my ghast was any more flabbered than this. Just how stoned are the people that turn up to the Welly heats, the wheetbix sales must be enormous.

Can't bloody remember, I give up.